THE POLITICAL IRRELEVANCE OF THE REPUBLICAN UPPER CLASS...( PARTY)

The following is the continued debate between two bloggers,Amlicar and Chris Wysocki, responding to Americas social decline.
Who has led us down this path of long return and if and when we find out , would it be in our National , economic , political and security interests to ban the destructive and disastrous minority Upper class Republican Party from eternally managing our society again:


CHRIS WYSOCKI:Amilcar, its the new feudalism. The serfs pay dearly to be "protected" from the "bandits" by the "nobility", who often one and the same.

The feudal lords were invested with their nobleness by the hereditary "divine right of kings" which basically said that they were in charge because God had put them there. Since they stayed in power because they could pay their armies, basically it came down to money.

Its the golden rule, those with the gold, rule.

Democracy is a very fragile thing, that allows the kind of prosperity we saw in the post World War II era. It requires a delicate balance of power between the big business, the state, small business and the people.

If any one group gets too much power, it stops working.
AnotherChris | 02.12.09 - 11:53 am | #

CHRIS WYSOCKI: @AMILCAR - I'll say it once more, slower this time, so please try to follow along.

The money that I (or anyone else) earn is MY money. If I pay taxes to support the government, a "tax cut" is most certainly not giving me something that I did not earn. It is merely stopping the government from taking my money.

Do you understand that? The money does not belong to the government; it belongs to ME. I earned it. There is no government (Republican or otherwise) "spending" associated with a tax cut. There is merely a reduction in the amount of money confiscated by the government.

You have been misled by talk of the "cost" of a tax cut as if there is a money fairy who writes checks to laughing fat cats. No such luck. The "tax refund" is one of FDR's most insidious creations. Prior to his realignment of the tax code, people wrote one check a year for taxes on April 15th. You calculated how much you owed and you sent it in. FDR created the withholding tax system, ostensibly to make things "easier" for working people, but really to instill the belief that the taxes weren't your money. The "refund" came to be seen as government largess instead of what it really is -- a zero interest loan of our own money to the Feds which they so magnanimously are paying back.

And actually, under the "refund" system, there is a money fairy. It's the Democrats who created the "refundable tax credit". This is money which is paid out to someone who has NO tax liability. Yet they get a "refund" from the government. How? Because the government takes money from someone else (me?) and gives it to the person who paid no tax in the first place.

Refundable tax credits are an abomination against hard work and common sense. But they're immensely popular; they're the epitome of "free money".

I also want to address your quite distorted characterization of the American people. It's almost as if you were brought up on a steady diet of 1970s era Soviet propaganda. Were you? For a counter-view please pick up a copy of Tocqueville's Democracy in America. I had to read it in high school and found it to be quite enlightening. I'm told that it's been dropped from the curriculum in favor of some quasi-poetic drivel written by Maya Angelou. Pity. Tocqueville actually makes sense.
Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.12.09 - 2:48 pm | #

AMLICAR:
Do know you consider Maya Angelou written works drivel? Because it does'nt fit your Right Wing anti -people view of the American. You know what Racist America, was since 1864. We know that America has being identifying an American, only, as a blonde blue eye male or female.

It may scare you to know that the USA has been a multi -cultural, multi religious, multi racial country since the Pilgrims landed.

So I wont bother to exert any pressure on myself to read "Democracy in America" written , when racism and Right Wing definitions of who we are or were no longer accepted. It goes to show , how out of step you are with the flow of progress.

Chris..Ever since the Soviets made a mess of their society..no one has tried to label an analysis as a "1970's era Soviet propaganda". Man you are a real old time anti progressive , cold war veteran. Are you anti- people, and anti black as well..You seem to enjoy the glory of that era.. the era of Nixon and Reagan .

Time is always changing things . We have cell phones and computers and info is open to everyone of all ages and backgrounds. So pal , there is no more Soviet propaganda -type analysis.

It is either correct or incorrect analysis. Please get with the program.

PLEASE MAKE SENSE...!!!!

What are you talking about. Please read your opening sentence:....."The money that I (or anyone else) earn is MY money. If I pay taxes to support the government, a "tax cut" is most certainly not giving me something that I did not earn. It is merely stopping the government from taking my money."

Now I know why it is so hard to get thru to you. You do not understand politics or economics or the working of Govt.

"Tax cuts" represents a reduction in the tax you are obliged to pay. Or you will go to jail. When the Upper class cry and threaten to fly into tantrums if they dont get a "Tax cut" they are saying that are asking to pay less, as is prescribed by law.

The money that represents "TAX " is not legally YOURS. Just like it is NOT legal for another man to kill you..so it is with all legal binding arrangements with the Government.

Don't follow the stupid, and misunderstand the role of Govt.

To the Right Wing who wanted WHO WANTED SLAVERY TO REMAIN INTACT, the Govt took a human rights stand to abolish the totally inhuman practice of using and abusing humans to make profit....free of charge with no rewards to the hard workers......

If you consider taxation to be confiscated money. Then when you are attacked, by bandits.I suggest you refuse to call 911 or do not use the lights on your streets.

When the militant extremist issue threats or attack our national security or international interests, we will ask you to retrieve your shotgun and go find them , because you consider taxes confiscated money.

It was Ronald Reagan who, in an effort to bamboozle the voters, and build support for Upper class hoarding of our wealth..that condemned the value of Government as a mechanism to take care of issues each person cannot take care himself. As I mentioned above.

So don't drift off topic. All people on this planet pay tax. If you want to read about the historical development of the process government formation...Do some research about humans as they moved from nomads to steady villages or combination of villages.

Man you sound like the Republicans in Congress..over and over the same babbling..I'm sorry to say that Chris, but we are facing an entirely different era.......Raise your level..thats the challenge...President Obama ask of us.
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.12.09 - 6:04 pm | #




CARRIAGE LANGUE: The final verdict comes down to who you are serving, whose interest are you dedicating your honor to you.

Since socially, the US is like all countries, not a homogeneous group people, but each one falls into social grades, social strata, and classes. We all have to submit to the outlook of the background, we are either born into , or chose one of our own free will.

If you are middle class, you aspire to be Upper class, you can either decide to assume the 'full
nelson ' on the views and thoughts and beliefs
of that class, never contesting just consuming , and arranging your thoughts and decision making towards that economic group you aspire you aspire to emulate.

There is nothing wrong with that choice,. But you must state honesrly who you are serving.
Never should you try to confuse others that you are dedicated towards the American people.

when in fact you are serving a small , nevertheless powerful, important, and influential sect of the society. Then we are discussing with all the cards on the deck.

I choose to serve the people, ( 92%) of the population, the backbone of the society, the productive forces, the motive force of any society, the consumers, the salt of our earth, the engine of any economy, if they stop the society stops group. The real creators of all wealth.. they do not own .

Some people choose to serve the minority 8-10% of the population. The owners of production, the Upper Class, the ones in the society most to benefit from segregation, oppression, denial of voting rights, denial of human rights, the hoarder of the country's wealth. The Owners of the Capitalist society. (Just like the Kings and Queens were the owners of the Feudalistic society) .

There lies the purpose of Ronald Reagan 's quote. "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."

He is talking to all the people, in leadership positions , that "serve the people" . whose thoughts and actions are NOT directed towards consolidating the position of the Upper Class, the owners of production..who dream of establishing DIRECT POLITICAL DOMINATION WITHOUT ANY CONTEST, ask Dick Cheney.

It is like Pontius Pilot , the Roman emperor/governor, saying to Christ who is "serving the people" TOWARDS the Roman Upper class, you are NOT ignorant....."but you so much.. dont know, how much we love those people...(wink..wink...*****) your people....

So when you quote someone try to understand their reference , their class position, and who they are serving..exclusively..as rabid Republicans Mitch Mc McConnell, Trent Lott, J ohn McCain and Rush Limbaugh as leaders are are serving Corporate Upper Class, and not America. Their first love is themseves and their class.

Middle class America survival and dream rests with seeing America prosper all all , everyone. They learn that from their experience on the manufacturing and community assembly line......

EACH ONE HAS TO ENSURE EACH ONE IS SAFE AND HAPPY.. because in order to get the job done..you are depending on the person upline and the next person downline....if ONE FAILS all fail......

THAT'S SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE......Thats why the upper class representatives call what President Obama is advocating is socialism.....

WE HAVE TO CARE WHATS HAPPENING NEXT UPLINE AND DOWNLINE..
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.11.09 - 12:06 pm | #

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CHRIS WYSOCKI @AMILCAR - surely you can't really believe that one's lot in life is dictated by social class status in the 2009 USA? Come on now, that's pure doctrinal Marxism and is so very 19th century. If you'd mentioned the dialectic I'd say you were having me on...

If you look at the richest people and biggest corporations of today and compare them to the same statistics from 1950 you'll be hard pressed to see much overlap between the two. Lots of new wealth and new endeavors have been created since then. All of that didn't come from the "upper class". It came about via hard work and an entrepreneurial spirit.

The whole "class struggle" meme you keep rehashing is yesterday's philosophical nonsense; it's been repudiated time and again by events. I've got news for you, 90% of America's workers are not mindless drones occupying slots on assembly lines. We haven't had anything close to that kind of workforce in over 100 years.

To over-generalize, we are a service and information oriented economy. Manufacturing and manual labor are not, and never will again, be a big component of American society.

As for "establishing direct political domination without any contest" and "ask Dick Cheney" all I can say is "huh?". Didn't Bush/Cheney voluntarily relinquish their offices as per the Constitution? If they were going to rig an election; last year's would have been a pretty good election to rig, no?

For all your pontificating you still haven't articulated a compelling reason why the country should pour first $700 Billion, and soon $800 Billion, and maybe another $2 Trillion dollars down a rathole. Obama is spending money like a drunken sailor and the key economic indicators are not looking good. Wall Street is in free fall. Unemployment is going up. Retail sales, wholesale orders, and even oil are all down. That money has to come from somewhere, right? Where? I don't have a clue. I don't think Obama has a clue either.
Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.11.09 - 3:18 pm | #

CARRIAGE LANGUE : The desire to undermine the existence of Class in a Class Society..is hilarious. Even in simple Marketing and Public Relations class they teach students to observe the existence of class analysis.

If you are a Marketing specialist and do know your Market or audience you will not be able to fashion a marketing or advertising campaign that will succeed.

It is the Upper Class in the USA that are afraid to allow in politics, the knowledge of the existence of classes. We call proponents or advocates of class analysis politics ....LIBERALS.... and Right wing as Conservatives. We never admit the existence of an Upper Class. It was Hillary and Barack that introduced "middle class", its existence,and its dreams. John McCain NEVER ONCE mentioned them . Just like you he denied they exist.

All over the world ..including Europe , Australia ..South America people know their class affiliation. and class behavior.....that's NOT Marxist.... its social science.

Simple economics the first Chapter is about dividing the society into its social strata.

You are still fighting to maintain talk about denying the existence of , and the value of class analysis.
It is no wonder your views are stuck behind old political models. The world has gone hi tech, All info is available , the info age has brought man and woman into contact with thoughts, the Ruling Class never wanted disseminated...too far down the Strata pole....into the lower middle and working classes.

I have deliberately pointed out to you that mis -information or lying is not going to stop right wing politics and politicians from sliding into IRRELEVANCE .. which is he greatest fear of the Upper Class. They have seen the Feudal Upper Class gentry...slip into oblivion.

What I mean about you lying..."....Obama is spending money like a drunken sailor and the key economic indicators are not looking good. Wall Street is in free fall. Unemployment is going up. Retail sales, wholesale orders, and even oil are all down. That money has to come from somewhere, right? Where? I don't have a clue. I don't think Obama has a clue either.".....

He has NOT touched, AS YET, the national economy managed by the so-called money professionals . That was the selling point by Wall Street, in the election of 2000. 'We need a upper Class Professional to spend( manage) the bounty left behind by Bill Clinton'. They advertised in the TIME magazine

The Republican Conservative Upper Class cannot manage a National economy to serve the people.

Now Chris, A smart manager who is familiar with the people and their neeeds and the needs of our economy knows that you have to bring people to meet goods and services at a particular place. Business owners and owners of production must have their products ready and consumers must have cash available or credit accessible if the Sales are to happen.

To do this people must have jobs, they must be able to work for a steady income..to finance credit..and to continuously purchase goods and services. The manner proposed by President Obama allows money /cash to circulate within the financial system from the ground up...spreading out like sunshine..and rising to meet the cooler air of businesses who in turn will re-invest their profits to create more jobs...

It is not rocket science..its simple common sense.....politics and economics..aimed at serving the people......and NOT serving the upper class first..and let them dribble crumbs..to the lower classes..... That has led to disaster everytime ..we foolishly let the minority Upper class party manage the politics.

THEY HAVE TO STAY OUT OF POLITICS....Or eventually they will have to ban them from politics..eternally. It is NOT in the interest of our economic, political or national security , to have a Conservative Republican party leading our Country.

This is my view if we are to SAVE AMERICA...

Time and history has caught up with them...they have become irrelevant.

One more point you keep talking , in desperation, about "fiscal conservative" as if its a tropical drink you experienced in the Caribbean. But in real life you have never experienced it as a Republican Party policy.

In real life Republicans are stingy with the taxpayers money when it comes servicing the people needs. They are big spenders when it is time to hoarding the finances for themselves, through tax cuts and tax incentives for super rich companies, who very rarely provide jobs to compensate for the largess "fiscal conservatives" get from their Party while in the White House Administrations. The so - called protector of the treasury, will not spend on services that will improve the lives of the lower classes below the Super Rich. In this year, the year of the "stimulus package" .

We see that the Republican Representatives willing to support the "money transfusion " into the economy are unwilling to support education and rebuilding the dilapidated schools and educational institutions throughout the country.

So when you talk about Conservatives not wanting to spend money , taxpayers money, you maybe are talking about intellectual armchair talking heads, who most likely are walking in the fields with a walking staff in hand as Moses, dressed in a sandals preaching to the wind.

The truth is Right Wing Conservatives Republicans see the people in the lower classes, the same way Corporate executives see their workers. It takes the Unions, unity of the workers, to come in and get some dribble down to compensate for their hard work.

Just as the Kings and Queens saw their people as slaves, peasants, scum, unclean to be in the same room as them... Similarly Right Wing Republicans Conservatives see the rest of society. Even the dwellers in Trailer Parks, who live in the most deplorable conditions, all over the new and old South , that supportRight Wingers wholeheartedly are NEVER given any tangible evident improvements in their lives.

They pay tax but get NO medical insurance , most actually live in squalor, in poor health and are always ENCOURAGED to be angry at African Americans who are always striving to ensure they are not left further behind.

So their is no "fiscal conservative" who is not in reality a cruel "slave driver" who wants the most productivity from his "minnions" but provides very little reward for their living and working conditions.

PROGRESSIVE VERSUS REPUBLICAN COMMENTARY

The following are the comments between CARRIAGE LANGUE and a Republican blogger that sought to defend the indefensible. I responded to his comment that Presodent Obama was not working in America's interest..but as a socialist big spender.


CARRIGE LANGUE : I think we have an opportunity to retool the American economy and make it better than our forefathers imagined. The majority of Americans of the middle class, of the working class and immigrants are willing to roll up their sleeves and go for it.

But road block to such an outstanding effort is the Upper class. That minority less than 10 per cent of the population, who think they are the Kings and Queens of America. They will continue to frustrate growth in our country unless they can navigate and dictate , who can eat and how they should sleep. ( Blaming it on a fictitious market forces, the imaginable invisible hand of the greedy capitalist).

I suggested to President Obama's transition that they will have to find a way to reduce the cost of production and subsequently the cost of Upper class income, the cost of prices, while at the same time increasing production and the availability of goods and services.

Again , such an ambitious progressive , "thinking of tomorrow " plan, will cause such and yelping and whining as we heard for the whole week from Republican Senators, whose greatest fear in this period, is irrelevance.

When the Feudal system failed the new class of bourgeoisie, they yelped and whined because they saw the writing on the wall..their irrelevance.
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.07.09 - 8:59 pm | #


CHRIS WYSOCKI: So what, we should all wallow in misery because it means we're all "equal"? Good grief.

If you dug up Thomas Jefferson and told him that his successor in the White House would seek to limit or confiscate the wealth of the citizenry he'd think you had gone insane.
Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 12:12 pm | #

But you will be lying again and to the famous Thomas. It will be OK to say that if you have NO evidence of that besides your imagination... So i implore you to calm down..don't go insane..and see devils where angels dare to thred. Lying to our forefathers is not cool. Unclench your fist..free your mind and carefully listen to your good angels..who are telling you , President Obama will be the closest we came to the best ever President, You expect to wallow in misery? After 14 days of trying to save you and America. Are you that ungrateful. Unless you are a member of the minority 10 per cent..Then you should know that the Republicans don't represent your ideals , values or aspiration for a more successful USA. That is unless they take all the wealth and gribble down the dregs to you and me. Am middle class......and I know wrong from incorrect...and know who are my class allies..genuine class allies. If you are a Republican then you are on the wrong side of history. You can see that everyday. Its Progressive as opposed to Regressive. AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 1:39 pm | #

CHRIS WYSOCKI : Imagination, sure. Of course, having actually read much of what Jefferson wrote, I'm think I'm on pretty solid ground. I also read the Federalist Papers. You should too. It's facile to create a strawman (evil Republicans) and then imbue them with all manner of dastardly intentions which you can then refute with impunity. Try making an actual argument. Obama's plan to mortgage our grandchildren's future will result in misery for decades to come. Greatest president ever? Hah! Ronald Reagan holds that mantle and he's not about to relinquish it to the poseur from Kenya. Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 1:59 pm | #

CARRIAGE LANGUE : You want an actual argument? About the American Republican Party of the last hundred years. The Republican Party that encouraged "Jim Crow" fascist politics , aimed at African Americans and minorities but affected the whole country, with stagnation and little growth. Businesses were could not prepare products and services for a growing market. It took the progressive movement and the civil rights movement about half a century to free the the productive force of these semi enslaved Americans before our economy could reap the benefit..and that was about 12 years after Martin Luther King was murdered. That is only a, out of 26 indictments against the Republican Party. Which includes a massive indictment Ronald Reagan who created , openly the anti people economics of modern America. It was his misguided concept that the 10 percenters can fearlessly say...we will capture ALL THE wealth of America and dribble what we want to the rest of tthe society. Thats called rabid exploitation of the goods . services and benefits of hard working Americans to the Penthouse of the wealthy. This calamaity in our economics and finances began its downward direction with President Ronald Reagan. So only the in the Board Rooms of the very rich will Ronald Reagan be the best President. That title is set aside for Abraham Lincoln who saved the country called USA from becoming a landscape like Europe..littered with many countries of fascism and anti people dictators for a long time...So you cannot love the USA , and not LOVE Abe Lincoln as your mother. You are not sure of what you speak..this spending plan is not a Dems plan or a Repubs plan, it is a plan sensible leaders will make to save their country.. Of course its a sacrifice...but your Pepub Party mismanaged our childrens hope for a n easy future ..that Clinton ensured when he left as President Jan20th 2001 AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 3:49 pm | #

CHRIS WYSOCKI : AMILCAR, you're an idiot. Like most "progressives". Republicans were responsible for Jim Crow? Read some history! The Republican party was founded as an ANTI-SLAVERY party. Abraham Lincoln, who Obama cites as one of his heroes, was a Republican. After the Civil War segregation and Jim Crow were instituted and maintained in the South by Democrats. The Old South, the segregated South, was also known as the solid South--solidly Democratic. The majority of Black Americans were Republicans until the 1930's. And more Republicans than Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Like I said, read some history and stop following the party line. And what's this about making America's economy "better"? How can you make better an economy that's powered by 5% of the world's population yet produces 25% of the world's wealth? "...and not LOVE Abe Lincoln as your mother"? Uh, Abe Lincoln was a dude, dude. Seane-Anna | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 4:35 pm | #

CHRIS WYSOCKI : I'm afraid poor AMILCAR is a product of our woefully inadequate public school system. The one where they teach victimology instead of history. The one where only Capitalists are evil and every minority is full of saints who couldn't get ahead because they were repressed, and not because they sat on their butts.

CHRIS WYSOCKI The Real World. It's big enough for all of us. And, it's got plenty of opportunity for you to succeed, without government intervention, if you work hard.
Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 8:34 pm | #

AMILCAR, the Republican Party put forth acts of legislation to Congress in the late 1860's to early 1870's that are virtually identical to the Civil Rights Acts of 1964. These were all shot down by members of the Democratic Party.

From the 1870's to the middle of the 20th Century, the Democratic Party ran on the platform of white supremacy. President Wilson SEGREGATED the federal government during his two terms. He also made sure that no black man would get a federal job if he could find a white man to do it.

The first three black US Senators were members of the Republican Party. The next three were Democrats, one of them was appointed to complete the remainder President Obama's Senate term. The Republican ones were elected in the late 1800's and during the height of the Civil Rights Movement in the US.

Every African American in the House of Representatives during Reconstruction were Republicans.

The KKK was even formed to be a terrorist group against REPUBLICANS. President Grant used the military to protect black Republicans in the South from these attacks. He even successfully ended the KKK until it was reborn in 1915 with The Birth of a Nation that had it's film premier in Wilson's White House.

And one fun fact, the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a member of the Republican Party during his adult life. If you don't believe me, look it up, just not on Wikipedia because they won't mention it.
Chris M | 02.08.09 - 9:25 pm | #

CARRIAGE LANGUE: Just on your first sentence.
When the president pulled out the forces that were protecting Africans Americans from the Fascists Big Landowners, 1864, that left them exposed to the terrorists attacks from the KKK.

Do you know how far ahead the USA would have been if racism and segregation did not stunt this country's growth.

As you know Southern white workers are encouraged to hold Africans Americans responsible for the defeat of the traitorous Confederate Army. They wanted to maintain slavery up to this day. They wont mind praying to Hilter to continue cooking the Jews.

Just tonight I saw a typical a hangover from KKK rabid days.
White guy, supporter of the Republican Party...poor guy..in a beat up Ford truck 1989..dressed in camouflage with cap to match..with a ...pregnant girlfriend / wife...but has been held back by the regressive politics of the Republican.......This buddy, still carry a HATE FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS....144 YEARS AFTER President Abe Lincoln, SAID THAT HURTING ANOTHER HUMAN , BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT YOUR COMPLEXION... was inhuman, the Republican Party still uses it as a buzz word call to their Base to support or attack .... they normally respond with violence..even if the measures are against there interest..e.g. Joe D' Plumber...

So dont try to rewrite the history of southern whites racism and the politics that supported that and terrorized so many people. THAT TITLE GOES TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

This is part ONE of my response.
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 10:16 pm

CARRIAGE LANGUE: "The Republican party was founded as an ANTI-SLAVERY party. Abraham Lincoln, who Obama cites as one of his heroes, was a Republican."

You are losing your cool , calling an idiot. You are losing respect. Its to be expected.
We all know that what happened in the course of time with Democrats and the coup that caused the Republican Party of Lincoln to change its quality of leadership, from "Progressive" to Regressive as the Democrats were at the time of Lincoln.

The Republican Conservative Party we are referring to is the of JIM CROW and the Southern Party of the Big Land Owners...that Ronald Reagan , Richard Nixon, Dick Cheney, and all the losers of American Politics belong to. But I am idiot..ok Bro.....I take that as a compliment..coming from the Regressive movement.

.This is another installment in responding to a supporter of Sarah , John and misguided Joe...
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 10:30 pm | #


CARRIAGE LANGUE :"I'm afraid poor AMILCAR is a product of our woefully inadequate public school system. The one where they teach victimology instead of history. The one where only Capitalists are evil and every minority is full of saints who couldn't get ahead because they were repressed, and not because they sat on their butts."

Thats coolaid talking......Thats bullnonsense education you received, to justify oppression, segregation, and the existence of racism. White and ruling class oppression did not stop the African American becoming the best they could be.

The history you read was tainted to allow you to accept racial oppression as a consequence of the victims "sitting on their butt"

Thats like Dick Cheney saying he broke the international law because the terrorist were bad guys........

You must read of the (white) teachers that tell and abuse their white students, when a black student overachieves in their class. Coolaid drinkers consuming the bullnonsense of the Republican conservatives.afterthought
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 10:50 pm | #




CARRIAGE LANGUE: "And what's this about making America's economy "better"? How can you make better an economy that's powered by 5% of the world's population yet produces 25% of the world's wealth?"

Is this a question you put to your economics professor..Or did you get the idea of the question from drug addict Rush Limbaugh.

Given the long history of the Republican Party..as Lincoln Party..I too may have been encouraged to join that long ago. But thats not how the Republicans represents themselves today.

Its the Party of fascists, anti working class and a hide out for racists and the shameless members of the regressive elements in Congress. Its a common place for anti Americans to be pretending to love our country. All the anti American greedy business executives....... claim this party as their own...the anti people religious Right claims the Republican Party as their haven.

The creative workers of our industries and makers of the best products to come out of any country.....are victims of the harsh political policies of the Republican Party.

Almost 85% of the working class and new international workers called aliens and immigrants..condemn the Republican, by voting for President Barack Obama, as the Party of the "greedy, rich, and decadent business executives"..
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.08.09 - 11:41 pm | #

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CARRIAGE LANGUE: "More Americans have learned the story of the South during the years of the Civil War and Reconstruction from Margaret Mitchell's 'Gone With the Wind' than from all of the learned volumes of this period." - Warren Beck and Myles Clowers (1975)

Beck and Clowers stated that in their Understanding American History Through Fiction (1975).

First off, stop using the term "Fascist" improperly. Fascism is the right wing of socialism, just as communism is the left wing of socialism. You can learn that in any Political Science course in an institution of higher eduction. Or you can just look at both Hitler's and Stalin's policies side by side and see all the similarities except for their implementation methods.

I even recommend that you read Mein Kampf and read for yourself all the praises that Hitler had for the US with our policies being enacted through 1900 - 1920.

Second, please learn your history as to what party enacted the Jim Crow laws. A simple Wikipedia search could do that for you.

"The white, Democratic Party Redeemer government that followed the troop withdrawal legislated Jim Crow laws segregating black people from the state's white population." - Wikipedia's page on Jim Crow laws.

Now, onto your claim that conservatives are re-writing history. How can those who want history taught the way it ACTUALLY happened be accused of re-writing it? History is constantly being re-written so the past seems more "perfect" for the present circumstances.

If you want to talk about racism in America, why not look at the fact that 95 - 98% of one race voted for their own racial Presidential candidate this past election. What about that racism?

So if the Republican Party is the "Party of fascists", why is it that they support the workers rights to a secret ballot when determining whether they want to unionize or not? (By opposing The Employee Free Choice Act)

Why does the "Party of fascists" want to let the doctors determine whether to preform an abortion or not based on their own personal moral grounds? (By opposing the Freedom of Choice Act)

Why is it that when the "Progressive" Party is looking for ways to cut the budget, the first place they go is scientific research? (The $780B TARP 2.0 Bill)

Why is it that the vast majority of the upper 10% of the economic ladder in the US support the "Progressive" Party, but the "Party of fascists" get attacked by saying this is the "Party of the rich and greedy"? (According to the FEC)


CHRIS WYSOCKI : .@ AMILCAR - as with all generalizations, your skewering of the Republicans may contain a grain of truth but it is then distorted to suit your agenda.

We can point out examples of extremism on both sides of the aisle. For example, which party has as their senior Senator a former Grand Wizard of the KKK? Which president hung out with an unrepentant domestic terrorist? See? It proves nothing to generalize.

Chris M's comment about how many Americans learn history is sadly spot on. Our public schools spend far too much time seeking to achieve "balance" and bending over backward to appease perpetually aggrieved activists to actually teach the facts as they really were. All teaching of history is slanted to emphasize a particular point of view. Already in first grade my daughter knows more about Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks than George Washington. She hasn't heard the names Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson or Alexander Hamilton at all. In her Social Studies book I spotted a chapter on "prominent Americans". There were pictures of 5 people - Abe Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Jackie Robinson, and Cesar Chavez. Sure they're all "prominent" (for varying definitions of "prominent") but they're also a perfect mix of politically correct role models designed to ensure every kid feels "included". I guess they're saving Margaret Sanger for next year.

As for bantering about "fascists", you should read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. It's fascinating.
Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.09.09 - 9:27 am | #

CARRIAGE LANGUE : Fascism is the extremism of capitalism.
Its the deterioration of rule by corporations. That is where the economic sector gets all the benefits of society, and is dictated by the force of the military.

The best fascist ideologue of in todays politics, will be Dick Cheney. He would have been the best right hand of Adolph Hitler .

Spain's General Franco was not a socialist..But fascist born of out his desire to implement Feudalistic control and industrialist control of the political services.

Mussolini of Italy was cut in the same cloth..was a fascist because they believe like General Robert Lee that the people are nothing but fodder ..slaves to satisfy the demands of the wealthy.

So socialism has been sold to you with poison..You are not aware of the social implications of mis-information , the mis information that Rush gushes out to people like yourself.

I am so sorry that as an Americans we are given manufactured education and information designed to to make forever followers and blind backers of oppression and exploitation . We think that it is happening to someone else, because they are black, or are immigrants, or are liberals or are anti, their definition of democracy .

You remember Dick Cheney and George Bush wanted to reduce the tenets of the Constitution that would reduce our freedoms and give CORPORATIONS greater access to our politics.

So you are in a ideological and political mess and you don't know it.
You think that the Upper class are friends of the USA.?.That's only if they can capture all Americas wealth for themselves exclusively.

Listen, after they were found to be hoading all the wealth, thru schemes like Madof's, big thievery. After President Bush gave them massive amounts TAX CUTS over the last 4 years, and they did nothing with that windfall...

They are hounding President Obama for more opportunities (TAX CUTS) to hoard more of our wealth to their Penthouse. This obviously will drain the economy, of its life blood (money) and Obama will not succeed and of course America the Super Power, and its National Security will be compromised.
Because our old enemies will see our vulnerability and seek to attack us.


They may show you love but as a slave driver, someone to do their dirty work for them,
not as an equal.

So all the books and literature you are reading only reinforces their control over what you should as they want you to know , that provides their first line of protection , to their control of our wealth.

Man, you have a lot to learn..My advice to you..... STEP AWAY FROM THE RADIO......STEP WAY FROM D' RUSH....LIMBAUGH...
Read my blog often so that..you will get some fresh air in your congested mind.
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.09.09 - 11:26 am | #

CHRIS WYSOCKI: AMILCAR, even the good old fashion dictionary disagrees with you on your definition of fascism. The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary defines fascism as:

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

So tell me, how is it that the US political party that wishes to lower economic and social regulation can be called fascist when the US political party that does increase economic and social regimentation is called progressive?

And where did you learn your history on Franco or Mussolini?

And for your information, when my Catholic family emigrated from Ireland to the US, it was during the height of anti-Irish and anti-Catholic sentiment over here, but through hard work and perseverance, they have become a fairly well off middle class family. We have even kept those famous "Irish Need Not Apply" or "Irish Not Allowed" signs to remind us where we came from. The only "acceptable" form of "racism" today in the US is anti-Catholicism and you can trust me when I tell you that it is very obvious.

And I have never once in my life listened to Rush Limbaugh. Now if he came to my area to give a talk, I would attend, just as I did when President Clinton, Senator (Now SecState) Clinton, their daughter, President Obama and all the other Democratic supporters gave speeches in my area. For Obama, I stood in line 10 hours to get a descent spot (five rows of people from the closest fence). I try to get a well-rounded source of information before I make a commitment and they just did not sell me on the issues that were important to me this election.

Onto your blog, I don't ever plan on returning there. To be as PC as possible, it wasn't my cup of tea.
Chris M | 02.09.09 - 2:48 pm | #


CARRIAGE LANGUE: All the definitions I gave were fleshy historical experiences that the world's peoples' saw felt and went to war to eradicate.
I quote the following from your comments to tell you that this definition compliments my statement on fascism.. It clearly describes Dick Cheney philosophy, the Neocons and the attitude of the leadership of the Republican Party.

Under the disguise of anti terror..the Republicans tried to brandish all who opposed the plans as "unpatriotic" and tried to pass an oppressive legislation..... pacts of fascism..

"That exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.10.09 - 12:27 am | #

CARRIAGE LANGUE: My family is also from ireland...but they were white and though they had some conflicts to overcome..and they did.

But the African American side..could not hide in a crowd and were singled out in the South..and hedged in the North..

Every one is taught about the history that brought on WW11..Fascism was on the door steps of ruining this planet.
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.10.09 - 12:49 am | #


CARRIAGE LANGUE :What you mean your cup of tea. my blog is a political outlet ..You are afraid of progressive analysis.

You are a conservative.. The idea that the rich and well spoken should have all the access is a feudalistic thought. It places people into levels based either on race..religion..or class and dictates they be treated less than humans to allow the upper class to be seen as mightier than those with little income or differing backgrounds......
It is such a bad idea.....it brings war ..as a means to correct the created imbalance.
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.10.09 - 12:58 am | #


CHRIS WYSOCKI: @AMILCAR - you have a rather distorted view of Conservatism. You're stuck in the 1950's railing against the Birchers. We're not like that.

Ronald Reagan preached and lived equal opportunity for all people of good will. It is important that you realize this. The Conservative movement wants to allow people to live their lives unfettered by government intervention. We want free people to be unafraid of their enemies. We quaintly believe that the fruits of our labors belong to us and not to the government. We want everyone to be able to enjoy the American dream.

If I were to sum it up in one axiom I'd say something like "get off your ass and work hard and the government won't stop you from being happy".

Some specific examples. We look at failing schools and don't automatically conclude that more of the same tired old policies will somehow change the results. We'd rather see school choice (yes, vouchers) to allow every child to get a decent education. If the DC public schools are so great, why are Barry's kids not attending them? Because the DC schools suck. More money won't make them better. He knows it, but he won't go against the teachers unions.

One of the most successful conservative social programs was "welfare to work". Republicans worked with Bill Clinton to break the cycle of poverty and dependence. People got off of welfare and into real jobs. Now the Democrats are turning back the clock with their stimulus bill; it contains a provision rewarding the states which expand their welfare rolls. Shouldn't we encourage people to get off of the government dole?

Progressives naively believe that we're just one more verse of Kumbaya away from World Peace. Sorry, no sale. There are people out there who hate us at a visceral level. Sure we want to change that in the long run, but in the short term a strong national defense in paramount. Dick Cheney is not evil. The people he protected us against are evil. If you can't see that then you are not looking hard enough.

The Chinese philosopher Sun Tzu said, "If you want peace, prepare for war." Yup. Nobody wants war (not even the dreaded "neocons"). But sometimes war finds us. In that case we would do well to heed the wisdom of General Patton -- "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." That is, when war finds us, we must win.

Finally, since I'm on a quote kick, and you say your blog is a bastion of "progressive analysis". Ronald Reagan said about that -- "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."
Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.10.09 - 9:21 am | #

CHRIS WYSOCKI :I find it a little bit ironic when Republicans, who have for so long, poured SO many billions of dollars down into one black hole after another, pretend they are fiscally conservative.

Good luck!!!
AnotherChris | 02.10.09 - 8:00 pm | #


CARRIAGE LANGUE : John Boehner, John Thune, Jon Kyle (what is it with guys named John?) have always been fiscally conservative. They're the new blood the Republican leadership needs. Mitch McConnell is as out of touch as Trent Lott was. John McCain (OK, there's a John we don't want) is also on the losing side of this battle.

The Republican party needs to return to their fiscally conservative roots. Until they do they're just another arm of the socialist juggernaut.
Chris Wysocki | Homepage | 02.10.09 - 8:53 pm | #



CARRIAGE LANGUE :The final verdict comes down to who you are serving, whose interest are you dedicating your honor to you.

Since socially, the US is like all countries, not a homogeneous group people, but each one falls into social grades, social strata, and classes. We all have to submit to the outlook of the background, we are either born into , or chose one of our own free will.

If you are middle class, you aspire to be Upper class, you can either decide to assume the 'full
nelson ' on the views and thoughts and beliefs
of that class, never contesting just consuming , and arranging your thoughts and decision making towards that economic group you aspire you aspire to emulate.

There is nothing wrong with that choice,. But you must state honesrly who you are serving.
Never should you try to confuse others that you are dedicated towards the American people.

when in fact you are serving a small , nevertheless powerful, important, and influential sect of the society. Then we are discussing with all the cards on the deck.

I choose to serve the people, ( 92%) of the population, the backbone of the society, the productive forces, the motive force of any society, the consumers, the salt of our earth, the engine of any economy, if they stop the society stops group. The real creators of all wealth.. they do not own .

Some people choose to serve the minority 8-10% of the population. The owners of production, the Upper Class, the ones in the society most to benefit from segregation, oppression, denial of voting rights, denial of human rights, the hoarder of the country's wealth. The Owners of the Capitalist society. (Just like the Kings and Queens were the owners of the Feudalistic society) .

There lies the purpose of Ronald Reagan 's quote. "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."

He is talking to all the people, in leadership positions , that "serve the people" . whose thoughts and actions are NOT directed towards consolidating the position of the Upper Class, the owners of production..who dream of establishing DIRECT POLITICAL DOMINATION WITHOUT ANY CONTEST, ask Dick Cheney.

It is like Pontius Pilot , the Roman emperor/governor, saying to Christ who is "serving the people" TOWARDS the Roman Upper class, you are NOT ignorant....."but you so much.. dont know, how much we love those people...(wink..wink...*****) your people....

So when you quote someone try to understand their reference , their class position, and who they are serving..exclusively..as rabid Republicans Mitch Mc McConnell, Trent Lott, J ohn McCain and Rush Limbaugh as leaders are are serving Corporate Upper Class, and not America. Their first love is themseves and their class.

Middle class America survival and dream rests with seeing America prosper all all , everyone. They learn that from their experience on the manufacturing and community assembly line......

EACH ONE HAS TO ENSURE EACH ONE IS SAFE AND HAPPY.. because in order to get the job done..you are depending on the person upline and the next person downline....if ONE FAILS all fail......

THAT'S SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE......Thats why the upper class representatives call what President Obama is advocating is socialism.....

WE HAVE TO CARE WHATS HAPPENING NEXT UPLINE AND DOWNLINE..
AMILCAR | Homepage | 02.11.09 - 12:06 pm | #

THE WHINING, RICH REPUBLICANS OF AMERICA

I think, this destruction of our economy by the Republicans and their Party. Have given us an opportunity to retool the American economy and make it better than our forefathers ever imagined. In my view the majority of Americans, of the middle class, of the working class and immigrants are willing to roll up their sleeves and go for it.

But a road block, to such an outstanding effort is and will be the Upper class. That minority, less than 10 per cent of the population, who think they are the Kings and Queens of America. They who continue to frustrate growth in our country, by siphoning, up the wealth to their loft, using it to build, extravagant yachts, gold plate bathroom taps, and all other decadent "waste full spending".

The remaining balance they wish to trickle down, to serve the country and its hard working decent people. We always knew that they will fight tooth and nail to keep this same economic system, even if they bled it to death. When they could NOT even finance THE TRICKLE DOWN they came and begged for the same people, they are stealing from, and their representatives, in Congress, to loan them some BILLIONS , so they could continue their greedy exploitation of America's financial wealth.

Now that the New President Obama is proposing to loan, the people, their own wealth to finance a new direction for the American economy, all over the world, workers are hearing them whining and crying wolf, they want 50% of this , stimulus package in tax breaks for themselves, again. They are also crying and pleading to be given control again of the American economy so they can navigate and dictate , who can eat and how they should sleep. ( Blaming it on a fictitious market forces, the imaginable invisible hand of the greedy capitalist).

I suggested to President Obama's transition that they will have to find a way to reduce the cost of production and subsequently the cost of Upper class income, the cost of prices, while at the same time increasing production and the availability of goods and services.

Again , such an ambitious progressive , "thinking of tomorrow " plan, will cause much bellowing , yelping and whining as we heard for the past week, from Republican Senators, whose greatest fear in this period, is their irrelevance.

When the Feudal system failed the new progressive class of bourgeoisie, particularly in Europe,who sought a new economic system and a new method of production, a new accumulation of wealth and its new redistribution of the wealth created. The owners of the feudal system, the real Kings and Queens, the owners of ALL the wealth created by their people, yelped and whined because they saw the writing on the wall..their irrelevance to the society was becoming evident.

So it is with the JOHN MC CAIN'S , LINDSAY GRAHAM'S , the nonsensicals such as SARAH PALIN's and JOE D' PLUMBER. The wind of change is blowing in their faces but they prefer to play the role of the historical DON QUIXOTE . Standing in the way of progress only leaves you trampled under the feet of the progressives on their way to a new beginning. Going back is not an option !!

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO TO SUPPORT

There is a massive debate taking place in every home and work place about the Stimulus Plan presented to Congress for its approval by President Obama . Almost all listeners have to depend on some source for information to determine their position of support or not, for the package.

Americans unlike other developed countries workers and general population have been denied the tools of analysis that will assist them to correctly evaluate a situation, so they depend on a few bench marks to guide themselves.

One of the indicators, the American people used to determine. to who to trust, who to believe and subsequently support their point of view, most people follow the political party of their choice. Almost all Americans have been deceived by this indicator, of trust, almost everyday and definitely every four years. How can that be , in a highly educated empire , and modern super power, as the USA ?

We Americans have never been told that this is a class society. With an Upper class, that is as selfish is the King's Family of 1776. The present conservative Republican party and its policies of every kind represent the ideals and goals of that monarchy today.

We are not told that people defend their class interest in their opinions and outlooks. We listen to talk show hosts and opinion leaders but do not understand which class they represent. Many talk show hosts are simple middle class folks who take positions outside their class, supporting the employers view where they work, so they can get paid.

Commentators like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly are opportunist who fashion their view to a specific audience , that are not famous for reading and researching themselves, but rely on them, as supporters of racism and Republican hate values of minorities and African Americans.

When you hear a comments from these protaganists of American backwardness, you know its intended to justify a class view, as imported and phony as it is, to these men and growing number of backwarding thinking hate values, female, talk show hosts.

When you listen to politicians bumping their gums, criticizing the "stimulus package" their arguments are in contradiction to the situation before us. They use the same arguments of Ronald Reagan, the devil of American progressive economics. Totally blind to the circumstances and the all out efforts required to SAVE AMERICA.

So when next you hear some one talk examine their wisdom, their knowledge background and their class affliation to determine if you can trust wholeheartedly their view, or if you have to take their position 'with a grain of salt'.

REPUBLICANS KILLED AMERICA, OUR SUPER POWER...

Mr. and Mrs America, illegal immigrants and friends of the USA. We're in deep trouble, the base of America power has been ripped out from its gut , by Upper Class , greedy, selfish and decadent men and women who wanted the good life , all for themselves and killed the goose that was laying the golden egg.

The Republican Party and the former Bush Administration facilitated their financial backers and colleagues to have a free run at draining the financial coffers of the Great UNITED STATES OF AMERICA right before our eyes.

We remember biblical accounts or historical analysis of the destruction of many ancient super civilizations being destroyed and undermined by their ruling and upper classes or being run over by marauding neighborhood adversaries. Well we are experiencing LIVE, our American super power , our beacon of economical , political and cultural success, being murdered by enemies , posing as leaders, in the political , economical and financial depths of our country.

Many Americans stunned by the devastation of their personal lives and the treachery of people they thought were patriots, are grappling to understand how it all happened. Although over the last eight(8) I have seen the makings of a plot to undermine our political, social and democratic values by the Conservative and Republican leadership in the White House. I became a little smarter and clear of what transpired from an article by JARED BERNSTEIN of HUFFINGPOST.COM . I invite you read his account of how the traitors abused our trust by manipulating their majority in the congress to pass the laws , giving access to thieves and crooks to drain our financial institutions .

President Barack Obama faced with the difficult task of saving our Great America from totally collapsing and deteriorating into chaos and exodus. He has been have trying in his first week as President, to get support for a widespread financial booster package, from the remaining members of the Republican Party still brave enough to be part the US Congress.

In real reckless defiance these leaders are demanding tax cuts for those wealthy Republican Business Owners , who did not get to share in the raid on the US treasury and financial institutions. Or did not get to share in the first bailout bonanza spree for the comfort of top executives.

The American people have to forge an unprecedented unity by mobilising in our communities, in our churches, in our work places to galvanize the support the of the Obama Administration to get the stimulus package passed and promise work to bring backAmerica from the brink.. to serve us the middle and working class.

However I think those who have harmed us , whether it was on 9/11 or 2000-2008 should be punished according to our values and the need for redemption. What do you think??

REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN DISARMED, WHO TO HATE,,,OBAMA OR STEELE..

Since 1876 when the rich white big farm owners corrupted their poor white farm workers, to join and establish a terrorist organization, called THE KLU KLUX KLAN (kkk), to terrorise and kill innocent black American civilians because they were organising to build a strong , united and prosperous USA.

The party of evil haters, and angry poor white folks now have a black man as their Chairman, M. Steele. The supporters of the Republican Party , whose base members chose to be attracted to SARAH PALIN , who promoted very skilfully, racism, now has to be surbordinate to a man , whose foreparents or family members, may have been killed or lynched by foreparents of today's Republican party ' most rabid , confederate flag wearing, poor rural members.

This is in an effort to get carried with wind of change, sweeping our American country. The question is will the Grand Old Party (GOP), change its philosphy , away from the Upper Class to the Middle and working Class? Its too late, they , the Republicans, have already been disarmed by President Obama.


The problem with Republicans and their philosophy is that its a step behind 21st century thinking, on almost every conceivable political and economic issue.
Remember when George Washington , Thomas Jefferson , Benjamin Franklyn were leading a PROGRESSIVE movement for change against a philosophy that said the minority control by the Royalists were backward and becoming useless as a means of Governance.

Similarly the Republican philisophy of minority Upper Class means of serving themselves first and last is a step behind the aspirations of the progressive population of America and the world.


The outdated anti people outlook is no longer attractive. The "we are white and them are black" call to the poor whites base, of rural America has lost its appeal, MR. Republican Buchanan. Americans in the main do not want to single out one group for punishment and ridicule . You maybe attacking a voters family, or a voters friend in law, or voters wife or husband , or voter's colleague.

So an anti -immigrant posture as a party will surely see you becoming a very small organization of hateful little white old men and pompous white women. With a black Chairman to keep you quiet. So get with program , join the program for change or get left way behind time and history.

Do you know how far behind the supporters of the colonialists and the King of England were on July 4th 1776. They were never heard of since. The Republicans are heading to join that extinct group , despite electing a black man to be their Chairman. It is not the color of his skin that will make a success, but its the quality of the ideas and philosophy in his head .

HOW CRUCIAL IS THIS PERIOD IN OUR HISTORY?

what do you think has happened now that Barack Obama, an African American, is simply the Presidenty of the United States of America. The progressive movement of the USA has won an opportunity to guide the world social movement to the next level of social existence.
Lets set the table for this argument.

For some yet to be explained, reason the capitalist free market financial system is breaking down . Experts claim that its a temporary malfunction that will heal itself. A sort of technological financial matrix. Their claim is , the system overextended its credit potential, thereby draining all monies and wealth, it harnessed from the middle and lower classes.

This means that all the profits generated by the labor of the United States workers were gulped by a few greedy men and women, of the US ruling class. This was facilitated by the 'FRIENDS OF THE RULING CLASS' in the past Bush Administration supported by the conservative and republican movement and their media spokesman Rush Limbaugh. Who religiously spreads bullshit misinformation as truths.

The members of Congress in the Senate and in the house openly supported this siphoning of Americas wealth into a few personal bank accounts. We are talking about trillions of Americans money has been stolen, using all kinds of evil practices
that was given in some cases lawful protection .

The fight to SAVE AMERICA has been moved from the streets and parks of the campaign to the Conference Rooms of the White House and the Chambers of Congress.
This fight is not a simple contradiction or conflict between between policy makers. It is the real battle between two world outlooks. One, representing the OLD , massa, the view of the slave master's great grand children, the anti worker business executive, the greedy and corrupt politician, way of treating and seeing peoples role in the American developmental process. The other,that represents, the hopes and aspirations of millions of Americans who do not want to see their and their family's living and working conditions deteriorate an inch further.

As we witness this open class warfare between remaining Republican members
of Congress and the Obama administration and representatives of Progress in Congress as the DNC members.
We the people who did not orchestrate or participate in the destruction of the empire's wealth, may have to take some action to protect our country from the overcast of evil left behind in Congress.

The success of this open class warfare will result, in either the American politics and economics of serving the wealthy exclusively, as former President George Bush and Dick Cheney did, as opposed to serving the middle and working class of America.

President Obama may have to get nasty before we see policies that will save America and our families, accepted.

The middle and working classes may have to find creative ways of supporting President Obama and outlasting the attempts by the Republican members of Congress to keep America heading for poverty, while exposing and threatening our National Security.

We have to begin, not 100 days from today, but immediately. Let us hold up the banner of our campaign's battle cry.....YES WE CAN....YES WE HAVE TO... SUCCEED !!

Please note..this post began its creation before the November 4th election..and was completed 01/24/2009.
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SARAH PALIN : THE ANTI - INTELLIGENT CANDIDATE

The GOP is a Mafia run Political Party.


Sarah Palin is just plainly STUPID. But she is also a lot more than that. She is the anti intellectual candidate, in a country of thousands of Universities. In a country where teachers have to struggle to keep their classrooms focus on the future necessity of learning and speaking intelligently. We have seen the choice made by a potential President,for his Vice President candidate, a person who is mentally and intellectually ,a deep in the woods Alaskan Hillbillie.

There exist segments of the white population, farmers , farmers chargehands, farm cowboys, and farm handymen, who hate organised education and harbor some of the worst anti government sentiments that exist amongst the entire population of the USA. That anti - government sentiment is regularly orchestrated , managed and manipulated by racists in Congress and in the white house.

These village (small town) folks and farmers are weaned for about three or four generations on a steady diet of anti people, anti minority, anti brown and black people. So even when the racists in Congress and the White House take economic and political positions that also adversely affect these unfortunate and hardworking country folks, they unknowingly support these measures simply because the Republican 'mafia' party will drop a few pro-racist camouflage political words,
to signal a call for overwheming support.

Sarah Palin is planted alongside John McCain as a distraction from the economic shredding of these small- towns people lives, by the Republican Party's economic , political and social policies . Unable to eke out a meagre existence, the oft-discarded base of the GOP, prefer to rally to Sarah Palin as she represents the best of their anti -intellectualism outlook.

Governor Sarah Palin is nothing more than a village beauty contestant parading with high Life political millionaires who like to show off their "caribou barbie". This potential vice president of the USA cannot put together a coherent sentence that explains the role of of the Vice President in an administration. My seventeen year old daughter, who is working hard to graduate from high school , while completing an Associate degree course at Florida Tech, finds ridiculously appalling that Sarah Palin displays such a low educational level. As if an intellectual standard is not expected of a candidate for high political office. I agree with the call for Sarah to get the hell out here and go home!!!.


THE ALPHABET OF REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN'S SMEAR CAMPAIGN


John MCain is listed as an American hero. He labels himself a 'Maverick'. Which means he is giving himself a clean canvas to paint himself as anything at any time. A sort of a master flip flopper with the need to justify his continuously changing positions.

Since he is a 'Maverick' operating outside the realm of conformity and reason, he went ahead and chose the worst female political candidate ever for vice president. Despite this known reckless approach to politics, no one was prepared for the mavericking of the presidential campaign using blatant dirty and dishonest mis-information on the trail.

The smear campaign against Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama, has run almost the full lenght of the English alphabet. The following the list of smears was spat out by a dishonorable man , who does not care to serve the majority of Americans but just to win, for the super rich in high places. Here they are:

A...Acorn
B....Bill Ayers
C ...Celebrity
D...Democrat
E...
F...Free Spender
G...Good Man (not an Arab)
H...Hawaiian ( not one of us)
I...Inexperience
J... Just don't get it.
K..
L Leftist / Liberal
M...Muslim
N...Not one of us (nigger)*
O..Osama (Obama/Osama, same terrorist!)
P
Q
R
S....Socialist
T..."That one"/Terrorist
U...
V..Voter fraud

Be prepared for the dropping of the term "nigger" or "negroh" on the campaign tril before November 4th.
In the remaining days of the campaign we expect McCain and Palin will fill out the remaining letters of the alphabet as they get more desperate, and pull out from their'crack' more insults. Meanwhile Palin has begun packing her bags for a return the wooded tundra with her Moose - like education.

The Republican party has become popular for its criminal voter fraud activities all over the country. This year with Barack Obama's leadership.The Democratic Party has uncovered many schemes used by the GOP, to deny voters their voice in choosing their President.

The Republican Party evidence is showing is nothing but a Mafia Party using trickery to gain political position and eternal social dominance at the expense of the American people.

Lets cast them into the Fire of Hell, for the pain they have caused to our country !!

MCCAIN SHOULD WITHDRAW PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDACY

A veteran soldier/military man, a person trained to defend the dignity of American values, a man competing for the highestand most influential position on earth has sought to destroy an American's character , by enraging the village racial vigilante groups in Republican strongholds.

Senator John McCain , a veteran soldier, and Senator has been using his position as Senator and Republican Candidate for President to blaspheme and target his opponent , Democratic Presidential Candidate, Baeack Obama, as an enemy of the USA.

Senator McCain and his demagogue , lipsticked pitbull Vice President candidate Sarah Palin, has been inciting the less educated of their support base, the segment of the lower income class, that breathes racial hatred, as normal analysis of all things non- white.

After the FBI and the secret service warned his Campaign of their incendiary remarks , that has the possiblity of facilitating violence , Senator McCain reluctantly told his mob squads the truth.

He said that he was lying about Senator Obama, and he really knows who is Barack Obama.
He stutteringly admitted that Obama is not an Arab, or a terrorist but a colleague, a citizen, an honourable family man who he is competing with for the position of President of the USA.

The Republican base supporters of uneducated and misinformed mob squad racial haters, have been encouraged to get ready to protect the country from terrorist sympathisers. Barack Obama has been fingered by the Republican candidates as terrorists sympathisers, while American troops are engaged in two wars in two cointries, against organised islamists terrorists.

These dishonest character assassinations by Senator McCain and Gorvenor Palin were taken very seriously by the Republican Party's mob squad of racial haters, and translated into open calls for violence towards Barack Obama , possibly his family, staff and supporters.

To quell any further development of the trend towards violence aimed at the Presidential Candidate Barack Obama

I am proposing that Senator McCain via live Television, nationally opologise to Senator Obama for inciting and influencing extremists individuals and groups to interpret his anti Barack Obama comments to mean you want him harmed.

Then he should withdraw his candidacy and that of his Vice President, a position and power abuser from the race for President of the USA.

A veteran politican should not use his stature to seriously and knowingly create an atmosphere of mob rule and racial hatred that could easily result in violence given our history of violence against a non -white Americans. He has betrayed America's trust .

If there is ever any violence, god forbid, aimed at BARACK OBAMA by these mindless thugs male or female , belonging to the lunatic racists fringe, Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin should be held responsible by the law.

SHOULD WE BAN THE RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN PARTY

The ideology and philosophy of the Republican right wing, is based on the concept of individualism, selfishness, greed,and taking as much for yourself without concern for your neighbor, or the life and general existence of those at the lower levels of the production food chain.

The big enlightened reason you hear from the conservatives crawling along the ground in Washington, trying to escape unnoticed, as the slimy snakes, they are,for the US financial meltdown was a result of greed, corruption, selfishness and waste of our resources . Which is not anything new . This is decay of the American capitalist system has been eroding its foundation a little more everytime we elect a REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

This time with George Bush, the worst President in USA history at the helms, in the white house, the decay and erosion took a few pillars of our foundation out from under us.

At all levels of the society there is evidence of our country going backwards and the sickening right wing leaderships carrying with them the stench of a dying breed, stinking up the America and the world.

The religious militants and their ultra aggressive ways are becoming less of a threat to the world , than these Right Wing Republican Conservatives as they grab and suck up the financial resources of the world for themselves.

This catastrophe will only get worse, relegating the election of Barack Obama as President of the USA, to a second spot on World News.

To help the USA recover, we as a nation will have to seriously consider suspending from national politics, the Republican right wing conservatives and their Party, if we are going to successfully embark on the road to rebuild the USA, to national and international prominence.

If we are to develop the concept of pulling up America to the point where we can compete with the Chinese . We cannot have a destructive ideology as the one promoted by Dick Cheney, George Bush and John McCain misleading Americans again.

To many Americans who have never gained any collective success, from their governance, are today captured in their prison of fear and racial dependence, unable to free themselves from their oppressive domination.

We just have to do whats necessary to save our country for our people and our families.

JOHN McCAIN WANTS TO QUIT.

At this moment 4 hours before the First debate of the 2008 Presidential Elections, John McCain wants to quit the race and is advised not to.
He has also contemplated changing his Vice President nominee from the "lipsticked pitbull" Palin to Joseph Lieberman , before the Vice President debate next week.

As a political watcher and scientific political analyst, I am seeing the campaign of the GOP candidate , that is losing its leader, through attrition and the weight of overbearing stupidity fuelled by backward right wing ideological politics.

It's clear from evidence of his decision making, his attitude on the issues and his generally weird behavior that John McCain finds himself in the same position Joe Frazier was in the14th round of his last Title Fight, in Manilla, against Muhammad Ali. The fight was a great bout but Frazier fell back and was being hammered with no chance of defeating the Ali in the remaining rounds. He took the only way available to quit in the 14 th round.

Similarly John McCain has been beaten down by the DNC Presidential candidate Barack Obama.
He has been erratic in his judgements and positions taken on detrimental issues paramount the SAVING OF AMERICA.His wild and reckless decision to choose a Vice President , no smarter than Anna Nicole Smith..even as a deceased celebrity. His erratic decision to suspend his campaign and try to evade open discussion, with his Presidential opponent and claim success for the resolution of the financial crisis.

That attempt of an election coup failed. Therefore he is a weak candidate with a string of failures immediately behind him. Showing the same unintelligent mindlessnes we have experienced during George Bush Presidency.. Wow !! what crap we Americans have been submerged in , with the world looking on unblinkingly.

WHITE AMERICANS AND LIPSTICKED PIGS

INTERNATIONAL SHAME

Amongst the turmoil of the implosion reverberating through the financial markets and world politics, there were two crashing sounds . The first, was the sound of decades of conservative right wing ideology collapsing. The second, was the explosion of the myth that white Americans were a superior human brand with wisdom.

With Americans recognising that our economic and financial system were riddled with decadence that came crashing around our legs. We heard another rusted clang, and shameful exposure to the corruptness of the American super power brand. It was brought to our attention, for the whole universe to witness, that white Americans, by just under 50% hated African Americans and non white people with an unjustified and insane passion so much that they can't do the one act to save America in 2008 and vote BARACK OBAMA Because he is not white.

This is backwardness is happening while more and more Americans of the middle and working class falling into the pit of poverty. For almost the duration of the George Bush Admiration, we heard that the shrinking of the American economy was mainly due, to 'illegal immigration'....'.the border was to open'.....'lets kill the mexicans..they are taking our jobs'. The Department of Homeland Security boasted of sending home ,back to their countries over 4 million immigrants. Suddenly the housing market began to crash. The truth is the immigrants took their money and invested it outside America. The immigrants stopped purchasing homes in America and bought them outside of America. How much money America lost ...we don't yet because its embarrassing.

The fools of the right wing conservatives party, forever working over the lunatic racist fringe, have kept them off balance with anti immigration bull nonsense while they drained the national treasury from the White House and from Wall Street supported by the traitors in the Republican congress. So we lost also from these crooks on wall street and in the white house allowed our jobs to go overseas and they got paid for doing it. If you want to be racist...these acts against the American middle and working class was done by......yes!!! white men.

Many small towns and cities in Indiana , Pennsylvania, Ohio are resembling third world villages and western ghost towns , yet the inhabitants mostly acclaim...despite the overwhelming evidence that he was an architect and supporter of America's demise...they say shamelessly, they will vote McCain..because he is white. What racists idiots.... Americas millstones.

Despite the obvious dimming of the American social brand internationally and the dire need to SAVE AMERICA from falling behind progressive and productive countries, we have white Americans about one in four , upholding the worst anti American principle of discrimination, maintained in America on the basis of race.

This revelation of the extent of white hate is shameful and embarrassing , coming from amongst the dumbest section of the American population. Mostly poor or working class white folks with meagre existence and exploited by big rich and well off America. These people want to see America fall into the dust of history.

Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King saved their Asses from extinction, when they fought to uphold the constitution, now they are hating and hoping BARACK OBAMA saves America and drags them along for the undeserved benefits.

This time when we save America we are banishing these embarrassing hatemongers to Nazi country where they can link up and rest with Adolph Hitler and the millstones Confederate Generals.
We Americans nurtured and schooled by the Great American Constitution are not going to allow JOHN Mc CAIN , THE LIPSSTICKED PIGGY, THAT LIES, SARAH PALIN and to hold US back any further
This 21st Century America, with our computers and space age technology, together with our bright population are moving up and away from Right Wing Republican repetitious and continous destruction of the promised dream for our families and children.

As the religious preacher man would say, while casting out evil ..begone you evil people and your leaders....This is our time for a new outlook and approach..with better results than before.

WHAT IS THE REAL STORY INSIDE THE CRISIS

HAS CAPITALISM REALLY GONE MAD

Athough I have my suspicions about the cause of the collapse of the financial bedrock of American capitalism system. I have to trust some raw analysis from the trusted folks at THE NATION, (the nation.com). Here is what they have to say , it will help you assess where the problem is and whether the approach is fundamentally correct or is it a swindle.

You can kindly also click on the link: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081006/greide

Please let me know what you think.
In the meanwhile some infocomedy:

THE EMPIRE HAS TILTED

Now playing: McFadden and Whitehead - Ain't No Stopping Us Now

THE KINGS HAVE SET THE PALACE ON FIRE...

Capitalism has gone mad.

The system of capitalism is in meltdown. The capitalist system has poisoned itself with its own food. This is further proof that the custodian of the capitalist system, the wealthy and super wealthy has lost their ability to comprehend and manage their decadent financial system of legally ripping off working people all over the world.

Intelligent forecasters were telling us unbelievers at the election of President Ronald Reagan, were shepherding in an era of feudalistic type management, of the American capitalist system.
This brand of extreme ruling class financial control of Americans standard of living, was labelled REAGONOMICS.

The philosophy,written hell, advocated that the wealthy and super wealthy siphoned all the country's wealth into the tanks of the upper class, only allowing some spillage to "trickle down" to the middle and working classes. Therein was born the 'trickle down' Reaganomics. The birth of the forthcoming American economic disaster.

President Bill Clinton almost singlehandedly tried to roll back and impede this impending disaster for the American Empire. His stewardship in the white house brought some real gains economically , but he was always under sniper fire to keep him from going further. His wife, Hillary Clinton, was the first to identify the source and reason for the guerilla warfare waged against his Presidency. She was correct in pointing a finger at the obsessive Right Wing conservatives of the Republican Party.

Today eight years after this most dangerous group, ever to have access to the reigns of the American political and economical "Power Central". We are witnessing the results of massive exploitation and abuse they dreamed of, since RONALD REAGAN gave them encouragement to have unbridled access to the profits of American workers, while deliberately only allowing the dreggs to dribble down to the remaining levels of the American society.

But this carnverous group of blood sucking upper class anti Americans are still thirsty for more blood . John McCain and his dopey Vice President candidate, Sarah Palin are making a play to continue undermining the foundation of the American Empire.
We can remember when as a leading Country, in the World, a super power, we paraded the best we had to offer,in human and material resoources. Today we are presenting to to the highest national positions sub standard educated people with below average intelligence.

Do you want mor evidence that the American brand is tarnished and internationally unattractive.

The hope for America, though limited, rest with the progressives in the American Democratic Movement led by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, although she is not on the Presidential Ticket.







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SARAH PALIN: WRONG WOMAN, WRONG MESSAGE

Wrong Woman, Wrong Message
By Gloria Steinem



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Now playing: Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) '91
via FoxyTunes

It is reproduced here to assist in getting the message out to Americans , female Americans, who have become sentimental about the efforts of Hillary Clinton not to attain the at least the Vice Presidential nomination. Let us focus on the state of this nation. This is our time to shine...our bridge building from the past to the future. Help your fellow Americans understand..as well.. There are bad news and good news.

Here's the good news: Women have become so politically powerful that even the anti-feminist right wing -- the folks with a headlock on the Republican Party -- are trying to appease the gender gap with a first-ever female vice president. We owe this to women -- and to many men too -- who have picketed, gone on hunger strikes or confronted violence at the polls so women can vote. We owe it to Shirley Chisholm, who first took the "white-male-only" sign off the White House, and to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who hung in there through ridicule and misogyny to win 18 million votes.

But here is even better news: It won't work. This isn't the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It's about making life more fair for women everywhere. It's not about a piece of the existing pie; there are too many of us for that. It's abo ut bak ing a new pie.

Selecting Sarah Palin, who was touted all summer by Rush Limbaugh, is no way to attract most women, including die-hard Clinton supporters. Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton . Her down-home, divisive and deceptive speech did nothing to cosmeticize a Republican convention that has more than twice as many male delegates as female, a presidential candidate who is owned and operated by the right wing and a platform that opposes pretty much everything Clinton's candidacy stood for -- and that Barack Obama's still does. To vote in protest for McCain/Palin would be like saying, "Somebody stole my shoes, so I'll amputate my legs."

This is not to beat up on Palin. I defend her right to be wrong, even on issues that matter most to me. I regret that people say she can't do the job because she has children in need of care, especially if they wouldn't say the same about a father. I get no pleasure from imagining her in the spotlight on national and foreign polic y issu es about which she has zero background, with one month to learn to compete with Sen. Joe Biden's 37 years' experience.

Palin has been honest about what she doesn't know. When asked last month about the vice presidency, she said, "I still can't answer that question until someone answers for me: What is it exactly that the VP does every day?" When asked about Iraq , she said, "I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq ."

She was elected governor largely because the incumbent was unpopular, and she's won over Alaskans mostly by using unprecedented oil wealth to give a $1,200 rebate to every resident. Now she is being praised by McCain's campaign as a tax cutter, despite the fact that Alaska has no state income or sales tax. Perhaps McCain has opposed affirmative action for so long that he doesn't know it's about inviting more people to meet standards, not lowering them. Or perhaps McCain is following the Bush administration habit, as in the Justice Department, of putting a job candidate's views on "God, guns and gays" ahead of competence. The difference is that McCain is filling a job one 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency.

So let's be clear: The culprit is John McCain. He may have chosen Palin out of change-envy, or a belief that women can't tell the difference between form and content, but the main motive was to please right-wing ideologues; the same ones who nixed an yone w ho is now or ever has been a supporter of reproductive freedom. If that were not the case, McCain could have chosen a woman who knows what a vice president does and who has thought about Iraq ; someone like Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine. McCain could have taken a baby step away from right-wing patriarchs who determine his actions, right down to opposing the Violence Against Women Act.

Palin's value to those patriarchs is clear: She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women's wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves "abstinence-only" programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers' millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn't spend enough money t o fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger.

I don't doubt her sincerity. As a lifetime member of the National Rifle Assn., she doesn't just support killing animals from helicopters, she does it herself. She doesn't just talk about increasing the use of fossil fuels but puts a coal-burning power plant in her own small town. She doesn't just echo McCain's pledge to criminalize abortion by overturning Roe vs. Wade, she says that if one of her daughters were impregnated by rape or incest, she should bear the child. She not only opposes reproductive freedom as a human right but implies that it dictates abortion, without saying that it also protects the right to have a child.

So far, the major new McCain supporter that Palin has attracted is James Dobson of Focus on the Family. Of course, for Dobson, "women are merely waiting for their husbands to assume leadership," so he may be voting for Palin's husband.

Being a hope-a-holic, however, I can see two long-term bipartisan gains from this contest.

Republicans may learn they can't appeal to right-wing patriarchs and most women at the same time. A loss in November could cause the centrist majority of Republicans to take back their party, which was the first to support the Equal Rights Amendment and should be the last to want to invite government into the wombs of women.

And American women, who suffer more because of having two full-time jobs than from any other single injustice, finally have support on a national stage from male leaders who know that women can't be equal outside the home until men are equal in it. Barack Obama and Joe Bi den ar e campaigning on their belief that men should be, can be and want to be at home for their children.

This could be huge.

Gloria Steinem is an author, feminist organizer and co-founder of the Women's Media Center . She supported Hillary Clinton and is now supporting Barack Obama

JOHN McCAIN AND HIS LIPSTICKED PIT BULL ARE DAMN LIARS

Every American Right Wing Republican Government in my lifetime has been a failure for us Americans. From Richard Nixon thru Ronald Reagan and the Bushes we have seen the social and economic dismantling of the promise of the America we love.

Even the era Ronald Reagan that was pimped as a prosperous period by republican right wing revisionist is no longer a worthy lie to confuse middle and working class Americans.

The feudalists, monarchists kingdom rulers view that the people of a nation are mere fodder to be used for their social and economic benefit is playing out itself in the theatre of American Presidential election. The American Right Wing Republicans ruling class just want to keep their big feet on the necks of hard working Americans.

Using the shameless and hypocritical method of watching the Americans in their eyes and balantly lying, McCain and lipsticked pit bull Palin could'nt care less if they are exposed.

Taking a page from the worst American President George W. Bush book of telling lies to America. John and Sarah are willing to throw the honor of American history built up since 1797, in an effort to maintain Right Wing Republican domination, suppression, and oppression of the continued dream of a prosperous and a successfully strong America.

We must all pitch in to make our determination count to ensure that LIARS ARE NOT OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE EVER AGAIN...

We should work with small towns America to help them see a properous America and not fall back into racial and prejudice discriminatory politics. Tell them it makes America poorer and we could do better. Register all to vote and bring them vote on November 4th 2008.